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ahhh i backed myself into a corner with this fic im writing. I established kian using hehim pronounce, but shes such a little guy i feel bad.
#i feel like im misgendering her#in my defense its the 80#i really dont think kian would even come out to rolan and rand as being queer#let alone as a transexual#idk i might be wrong#might have to write a coming out scene#sparrow speaks
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Apparently theres discourse about "i saw the tv glow" not using the word "trans" and like... if you attended school before like... 2013 the closest thing to trans you would have for reference would be like... Maury or the crying game or silence of the lambs, rocky horror, etc.
If you were trans and didn't know it, you'd probably want to steer clear of being called slurs, so you'd probably not learn the term "transgender" let alone "transexual" in the first place
It'd be more like "why do i only cosplay characters that are a different gender" or "do i want to be with character, or be this character"
Its like having a missing piece to the puzzle of who you are, that nobody tells you.
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Dude I feel like us transexuals can never find true love, or at least almost impossible. I'm entering late 20's and this whole time I've been fine with being single and alone, but the solitude has gotten to me now and I'm tired of it. I want to be stealth but I also want a gf. I'm picky though and uncomfortable with my own body, I'm just not bf material. This really aint a life worth living, but I'm a coward to end it.
i've seen a lot of people who are trans and have amazing partners and love and everything, ie. jamie and shaaba. but it's not easy for a lot of us, myself included apparently. i was also resigned to dying alone and being okay with it until i met and fell in love with my ex, and now that he's gone, the lack of intimacy and love is physically breaking me.
i'm mostly stealth, but considering i don't have a dick yet, i've only been reduced to a bottom in sexual situations. my ex let me top maybe five times in total and only gave me anal once... and i hooked up with a transgirl recently who demanded she top and didn't do anal like i asked for. i feel transmen in particular are seen as submissive bottoms who just want to be fucked in the front and it's like... no. not really. but every time i've come out to someone in a sexual context, that's what ends up happening.
and now i see a bunch of early 20's men on r/phallo asking if it's too late for them to get bottom and i'm like... my guy, i'm 25 and nowhere near financially stable enough to get phallo. stop complaining and be grateful you have the opportunity.
anyways, i think it's possible for transsexuals to find love. it's just... difficult. and when we find love and lose it, it hurts even more.
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"Okay, I do appreciate the chance to to talk about Sleeping Camp because I love Angela to death; I think it's wrong to suggest it's "about" being trans, at least in the way you have saying "it's not about crossdressing"."
I want to be really precise here, so we avoid misunderstandings: Sleepaway Camp is not a bad movie, I like Angela too.
But the point is that Sleepaway Camp doesn't have to be about something to have social effects. The fundamental "shocker" of Sleepaway camp is that the serial killer has a penis.
"In the modern day this could certainly be taken as a massively transphobic allegory for children with gender-affirming guardians, but certainly not at the time."
I don't think Sleepaway Camp is trying to be transphobic. Let alone making a statement about gender-affirming parents.
What happened to Angela has actually happened to cis guys. The German poet Rainer Maria Rilke was raised as a girl for the first years of his life, by a grieving mother who had miscarried the previous pregnancy.
My point was that the media landscape of horror films constantly invokes the male intruder on the feminine or the male "feminine" fake. These are really common tropes in horror, from Psycho onward. They parallel and reflect cultural anxieties around male crossdressers, Drag Queens and transfem people.
"in fact, you could argue Angela is in fact transmasc if anything"
Not exactly, since Angela isn't really trying to be Peter. She isn't avoiding being Angela either. She isn't redefining "Angela" (the name, the persona) as something other than a woman either.
"I don't think even the audience took to be about "transexuals" as a concept."
The person I was responding to seemed to think Buffalo Bill was some kind of gotcha that proves how out of touch people are who think our cultural anxieties might involve not simply male crossdressers, but transfem people.
I feel Silence of the Lambs saying "he thinks he is trans" is the exact mentality people have about ROGD.
I feel Sleepaway Camp using Angela's penis reveal as the moment of shock and horror also reflects something about our culture. She is definitely not anything like a male performer who someone might see at a drag show, but she is at least a little bit like the idea of "disturbed man in a dress" that I was raised on. When I was a child (and could not express I was trans) my mom (who was quite unaccepting of trans people at the time) told me how she had once met a "mentally ill man who thought he was a woman and wanted to be my friend" who existed at a bus stop near where she lived. My mother was simply creeped out, she did not want to be friends with such a person. I'm not saying that was directed at trans women specifically, I'm not saying it wasn't directed at a certain broad category of "mentally ill person". Of course it was. But whoever that lonely transfem was, someone like my mother lived in a world where disturbed mentally ill people are dangers and you can't be friends with someone like that without being at best in trouble, but possibly in danger.
"Notably in the immediate sequels (by a different creator) Angela is said to have gotten SRS, and what this feels like is not that anyone is supposed to think of her as trans per se, but rather a tool to do the exact opposite and handwave away that element of the plot. It's as though they said "she got surgery, she's a Real Woman now, we no longer need to spend any time on that"."
You are right, the creators were probably not afraid of transfems.
But I find it hard to buy that a movie where the final reveal is that the serial killer is a woman with a dick has somehow overcome all unfortunate implications because the woman with a dick in later movies is just a woman serial killer.
That's besides the point though. I don't know the Sleepaway Camp fandom, I doubt it's a hive of transphobia, nor do I think that edgy horror that casts trans people as monsters is bad or made by or for transphobes (necessarily).
The point was about transfem people and their role in a wider cultural imagination. And I think I made my point fairly clear not while I briefly mentioned Sleepover Camp, but when I discussed "trans strippers".
I'm not saying there are no implications, that it had no societal effect, or that it wasn't the result of a transphobic society. My main point was just clarifying if it was not about trans people more than it was about crossdressers. It tars both.
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Thoughts on T-Slur Discourse
Who's allowed to say the t-slur discourse seems to be going on right now. Since Iām a 33y/o, non-passing, transexual woman who's been transitioning for about two years I might as well throw in my two cents.Ā
Being a Trans Child in the 90s and 00s Sucked
I was born in 1990, meaning my childhood was in the 90s and my teen years were the 00s. When I was growing up tranny wasnāt even really a slur. Transitioning your sex or gender was so unthinkable that it was just never mentioned in any real capacity. I would occasionally hear about some āfreak tranniesā that actually went through with a āsex-change operationā. But thatās not me, Iām not a tranny, right? Doing something like that was for someone who was truly depraved and Iām not a freak. I was told I was a boy and that was the end of it. Why would I question it?
Now you might think that I grew up in some hyper conservative, evangelical household. But no, my parents claimed the opposite. They were super liberal (didnāt even vote for reagan in the 80s), we went to a unitarian-universalist church, everywhere I was surrounded by messages of love and acceptance and being true to yourself.
Yet even in this environment, tranny wasnāt a slur. I remember hearing my younger sister in her mean-girl phase saying that other girls in her grade looked like a tranny. Faggot was a slur and would get you in trouble, but tranny was just a light insult that people would casually toss around.
I knew of exactly one trans woman back then. She went to our church and transitioned in her 50s. I was in the youth group with her son and he fucking hated her for being a tranny. He just tried to pretend she didnāt exist. There was one time I got him alone and wanted to ask him some questions about his mom. As soon as he realized what I was getting at he started ranting about embarrassing and selfish it was for her to transition. How fucked up it is that he has to have a tranny for a mom. Keep in mind that this kid was misgendering his mom at every possible point in his rant.
I also remember one time my mom decided to talk about her on the car ride home. She spent the entire ride criticizing the way this trans woman dressed and talking about how she should have āat leastā waited until her kids moved out of the house.
This was the attitude towards trans women at a Unitarian Universalist church in the most open, loving, hippy-dippy, liberal part of Minnesota.
Now I could talk for days about how the 90s and 00s were a traumatizing time to be a trans kid. But letās fast-forward to the present.
I Donāt Pass
This isnāt me being self deprecating. This is a statement of fact. My testosterone-based first puberty did immeasurable damage to my body, mind, and soul. Every day I realize more and more that every facet of my being has been shaped by the trauma of having to go through a testosterone-based puberty and the expectations that come with it.
I donāt pass, I wonāt have any chance of passing until I can afford FFS, BA, and various body contouring procedures. That said, donāt come at me with any platitudes about how I donāt have to pass to be valid. Thatās not the point. The point is: not passing means Iām a tranny.
I see it in everyoneās face whenever I go out in public. Whether itās going to the grocery store or hanging out with friends. When people look at me, they see a tranny. When people interact with me, they interact with me as a tranny. No one treats me like they treat women.
And it affects me! I *know* Iām a woman in my heart of hearts. But I donāt feel like a woman, I feel like a tranny. Everyone else sees a tranny so I see a tranny in mirror every morning when I do my skincare. I see my pronounced brow, my cleft chin, my pronounced jaw, the way my lips sit on my face. I see all the markers that people use to make the judgement that I was AMAB and now Iām desperately trying to be a woman.
Kate Passes Perfectly
The place where all this is the most pronounced is actually when Iām in the presence of another trans woman I know, for the sake of this writing Iāll call her Kate. Kate is one of my cousinās daughterās friend. She is a 17y/o trans woman whoās been out since she was 9, got on blockers shortly after, then started HRT at 14.
I met Kate at my cousinās daughterās graduation party. I had only been fully out for a couple months at this point. I didnāt really even want to go to this grad party, but my extended family and their friends are all ālovingā and āacceptingā and āopen-mindedā so I let my cousin convince me to go.
When I arrived it was all eyes. Just a sea of eyes making judgmental glances. Andā¦ Likeā¦ How could they not stare!? Here I am, a 32 year old tranny dressed in a gaudy black and white outfit wearing what she *thinks* is low-key makeup. Everyone was āniceāāno one actually pointed and went ālook a tranny!āābut no one treated me like a woman.
Then at some point Kate came up to me, introduced herself, and immediately told me that she was trans. I didnāt believe her, I thought she was a cis girl setting me up for some cruel joke. But she wasnāt, Kate is just a sweet young woman who was assigned male at birth. Growing up with access to information and positive representation she was able to advocate for herself and avoid the trauma that wouldāve come with a testosterone puberty and male expectations.
Being around Kate was shear agony. Nobody, and I mean nobody, misgendered or stared at Kate like a tranny. Here is a young woman living the life I shouldāve had. The life I wouldāve had, if I had access to less cruel representation. The technology existed when I was her age, I couldāve had this life.
I didnāt have to be a tranny.
Every interaction I had at this grad party was tainted with the fact that I was a tranny. Whether itās people asking invasive questions; or being way too interested in me; or the classic āheāerr, i mean sheā pronoun fuck up; or when they smile at me like Iām a homeless man begging for change while theyāre loaded with cash and have no intention of parting with a single dime. Even Kateās interactions with me were because she saw that I was a tranny and wanted to come relate.
Thatās not to say I didnāt have any fun, I got a free lunch and I had a couple interesting conversations. People are generally fun to be around and talk to even if I am the token tranny. But I couldnāt stay for long, while being a tranny is better than being a man, itās still just so hard to bear.
Anywaysā¦ About That Slur
So what am I even trying to say with all these ramblings about my trauma? That not even passing transexuals are allowed to say tranny? That Iām the arbiter of who gets to say tranny?Ā
Well, yeah I am.
And also no Iām not.
I mean, I canāt control people and dictate what words they say or what they think. Whether itās a bigot calling me a tranny freak on the street or one of my extended family members muttering it to themselves when I commit the unforgivable sin of being a little cringe in my 30s.
All I have is my judgement. Take Kate, I can say with quite a bit of certainty that the word tranny has hurt me and stunted my growth more than her. I donāt want to discount any bullying that sheās gone through. But sheās not going to have to go through the horror of watching her body go through changes that are just simply wrong for her. The horror of being held to male expectations and dissociating away her teens and 20s.
So if Kate ever dropped the t-slur around me, it better be in the context of something truly poignant. Anything less and Iāll get pissed. On the other hand, If Iām talking to another trans person of similar age and transition history then Iāll probably be the one to start spouting off ātranny this, tranny thatā and end up getting called out.
So when I see people that are non-binary and attractive in the manner that is expected of their assigned gender at birth start talking about reclaiming the t-slur, I donāt want to associate with them. I donāt care if theyāre technically āallowedā to say it. Whether or not I confront them about it they lose my respect.
But why should you care about my respect. In all seriousness, you probably donāt. I donāt have any kind of following. And well, I literally just admitted to using conventional attractiveness as one of the measures for whether or not someone can say tranny! I clearly have a lot of self-worth issues that I need to unpack. But itās true, and if that makes you lose respect for me then so be it. But I suspect that a lot of people hold similar values, even if they donāt want to admit it.Ā
So, where does this leave us? I donāt know. I donāt have any real answers. Iām just some tranny, trying to figure out her life one day at a time. If you really want some kind of prescriptive advice, Iād say: read the room; say what you wanna say; and when (not if) you fuck up, listen to the people who are having feelings about it with empathy.
As for me, I think the real reason why this discourse is so touchy for me is because I want to eventually get to a point where it would be gauche for me to drop the t-slur. One of the few things that keeps me going right now is the fact that there are surgeries that can help me look less like a tranny.
I guess thatās what gets me about this discourse. It feels like thereās a contingency of people that just want a t-slur pass. When itās a word I want so desperately to get rid of.
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A little vent post, cuz this is a vent blog, after all.
I'm always thinking I'm faking it for attention.
It doesn't matter what "it" is.
It doesn't matter if I have all the evidence and reasons for "it" to be legit.
There are a few examples I'm getting paranoid about, lately.
I have the suspect of being autistic. I started suspecting it a couple of years ago, I have tons of signs of autism in every aspect of my Life. I talked about it with an handful of trusted people, two of them were recently able to get a professional diagnosis, and always told me I'm one of the few people who understands their sensory issues or certain ways of thinking. One of them actually decided to take the occasion to get diagnosed cuz they thought I already had one, and they thought that maybe they're autistic too. They are. I'm not telling about it to whoever will listen, I believe in self diagnosis but I highly doubt myself because I don't have the money for an official one and I don't want to end up fooling myself because I obsess over things, but what if I'm faking it for attention?
I'm a trans man. I never felt like a girl. A post on Tumblr about Marilyn Manson made me discover the word "transexual" and I finally understood who I am. I was 17 at the time, now I'm 26. I'm trans, I know it, and for safety reasons only my family and my friends know about it, irl. But what if I'm faking it for attention?
I'm punk. DIY is basically what I live for, I'm actively avoiding Amazon and other services like that as much as I can - I have to make exceptions for my special needs pets' sake, since the stupid city I live into doesn't even have a pet store, let alone specific things I need for my pets -, I've always trying to support small business even by just talking about them with my friends if I can't buy, I have the main punk values, I listen to the music. I try to inform others about the crimes big corporations are doing - don't get me started on Nestle -, and I actively try to help others. Only a year ago I started dressing punk, with my lil' thrifted clothes I'm having fun painting and modifying, but heh, I didn't have the opportunity to do this sooner. Then, Across The Spider-Verse came out and I'm happy people remember once again about Hobie's existence, yeah, I love him, but he's making me doubt if I'm really punk, because what if I'm faking it for attention?
I'm pagan. I work with Loki, Hel and Fenrir. I used to work with Thor too, before starting to work with Hel. I truly believe in them, I've always felt close to Norse Paganism since I was a toddler, always reading about it, always fascinated by it. Learning runes felt so natural, I always use them to write in my diary and there's nothing that brings me more inner peace than meditating and working with the Deities I worship. It's not something I yell around, it's something personal, private, and despite having this piece of information on some accounts' bio, I talk about it only if people ask, but what if I'm faking it for attention?
Am I really myself?
Do I really think what I think? Do I really feel what I feel?
Am I really the person others know?
Do I really believe in what I believe? Do I really care about what I care?
What if I'm faking it for attention?
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hello i just want you to know that i saw your post and got absolutely flabbergasted by your icon. iāve had that exact same image of flat eric as my profile picture in all my social media (except for tumblr) for YEARS and no one knows who or what the hell flat eric is. i had never seen someone else mention flat eric let alone have him as their icon. and that exact same picture. we are connected by peace and love and flat eric across space and time
I love mr oizo so much, this image gives me such a deep feeling in many ways and I'm glad we are connected by this exact image
it's my pfp on discord too. as proof of how much I love Mr oizo this my my phone background and my frount page of sc, which has Mr. Oizo - Transexual stamped on the very frount
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When did Eddie first realize he was a he?
He kind of always knew, before his mother went away she indulged his dislike of dresses, his father not so much and he took a few hits for not wanting to play with dolls as his dad assumed he was going to be a lesbian and queer=bad in his eyes.
When he came to live with Wayne, who wasn't exactly experienced in raising a kid let alone a girl, he was treated the way the other boys in the trailer park were and it felt right. It wasn't until puberty started that he realised something was different about him and the other boys. Wayne was involved in Eddie realising he was a boy as the adult in the situation who loves his nephew, he took it upon himself to try and find out what was wrong with 'Emily' and found mention of 'transexualism' in a book in the library (as at the time there wasn't a distinction between transgender, transexual and transvestite) and asked Eddie if he thought he was a boy or a girl.
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My life is a little like the truman show meets the scriptwriter from "scryed"
And so I'm unabashed about porny likes, political blogs, aesthetic japanese ancient and present and culture etc sharing the same space.
That said. You guys have to train and prepare for these things. You cannot come up with a hot girlfriend (whatever your tastes are) who can by proximity *imbue* you with these abilities.
Dresses? Get sized. Find a good taylor.
Orally fixated? Start pushing a watermelon up an incline with your tongue.
You have to *offer these things*. You'll get tired in two or three minutes if you don't, on that last one.
Anal? Hygiene. Look it up. You're looking at conditioning. You can't physically do this no matter how hot the woman is that you've convinced to try.
Any and all promotional material like a lot of my "likes" is to encourage people who aren't anything like the people depicted in it, to either *spend money on it* *date outside their sexual preferences or attraction type* or else *sell an idea underscoring what it looks like up front* and in a subversive way that may not be obvious or intuitive.
It's "easy" according to women who run major fetish dungeons and elder experts on a site like FetLife, and that I've corresponded with in the past. Meaning whatever easy is, it is *very much not that*.
People who want to fuck men because it's a power trip; they're not gay either. Some of those guys (who also have a strange habit of trying to get domme women to submit to them; women who are a lot more common than you might think) they're thinking it's "more for them" since after raping you they "get the girl".
Getting "feminized"? You didn't think about that, did you? Women aren't safe where men don't give situations a second thought. And you don't know how to walk, or how much women's clothes in men's sizes (aunt was over six feet tall and had to shop transexual stores) cost.
Each and *every single sexual and non sexual activity* requires training and practice to condition leading up to. Let alone doing it.
Stretch a lot of you plan on getting tied up; you're going to hurt yourself otherwise.
Chastity (which I'm interested it) is an incremental thing that has to be worked up to. You won't be able to sleep at first. Erection will be painful (that you can't get) for a week or some. Good luck convincing a woman accustomed to "PIV" intercourse to swap that for sex toys. And that have to be purchased, and sized, and whose usage is *not the same* as something that you came standard with.
Cuckolding? You're not homophobic, good for you. You want porn in your living room featuring people that you know? Not good; convince *any red-blooded heterosexual man* to sexually perform *with a naked man* or even *a man in a dress in the room*. And one who won't feel used like a disposable sex toy. And that's in a best case scenario way. Emotionally, you *have absolutely no idea* what will happen when you put yourself in that position. Someone is fucking your wife or girlfriend, you're straight (they may not be), and you're...what? Cleanup detail?
Women do not like to see men eating semen. And that's *most women*. And again, you're straight but suggestions from porn made that sound kind of hot. (Lesbians and gays in lavender marriages among heteroflexible people). Selling that can be made to look effortless.
It has a lot going into it per activity. Women don't like to see men sitting on sex toys on webcams. They require conversation and discussion with negotiation. They don't care if you have nipple clamps. They don't care if feeble photos prove that you can kneel or whatever seems masculine enough to put off the predatory gays. AND, if and when you start discussing the particulars as with FetLife, with a prospective partner; expect her to have standards beyond common courtesy, her own suggestions and/or desires, and probably (in all possibility) living thousands of miles away.
You have to work on yourself in a not sexy way.
In my experience, what I'm finding here is people resorting to commissioned drawings as often as not to describe a sexual universe. They're not corresponding or getting anyone to show up with word one about all the *advanced relationship* sexuality. So drawings. Men don't want someone fat and women don't want serial killers, studies say about newspaper personals. And *those are the people who are supposed to be spending money on these things* all of which are visual meaning almost entirely men.
And real life, *even if you are around the exclusive communities* where major fetish dungeons exist, you could find yourself cockblocked by people who can as soon kill you as look at you. (Seriously). So femdoms? Women aren't going to discuss doing this; you're going to be vested over months of dating as a "prospect" looking to become a "full patch" like a biker gang. Can you listen? Can you follow instructions? Because you're looking at consensual slavery by degrees; you're not looking to book a dominatrix where a whole relationship is encapsulated in a session or something (which is impossible mind you, and a part of the drawings that I'm seeing IMHO).
AND, within your attraction type *because you have to bring real heat* for sexual deviance to work. And I'm from understanding some things about the back end of sex work and the sex trade, and *it's recruitment pool* comes out of the same community as prospective relationship partners do. Which is how getting cockblocked by killers can happen.
So in summary, it's no more difficult than anything relationship meet and greet style; but the odds are stacked against you. And don't buy the "more for me" style "where the white women at" discouragement because *a relationship is between two people* (possibly more since economies are in a collective toilet).
(Even autocorrect as I was writing this, was throwing occasional leading discouragements)
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Luxy Leroy Ć Cathy - BRCU Fanfic (link provided at the end) I found this and decided to look into it and now I'm giving you my notes. Everything I've picked up on has been listed and supplied with images but if you find more pls let me know.
First note, this made me cry.
It makes sense in this AU(or if it's canon idk) because what is Luxy's job? Selling ykw toys. In this Cathy cheated on him and he was rejected all his life. His parents left him, his uncle left him, his aunt left him, and now his GF left him. I think him selling the toys is a coping mechanism so he knows he isn't the only one alone and single needing to please himself to ease it all
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Guys... Luxy met Sam and Sam says he isn't a homo but in this story Luxy has feelings for Sam and I'm not sure if Sam is still "super straight" or not :///
This can't be that old of a story because the goth character is new if it's the one I'm thinking of. Anyways...
Acting instructor - Alex Rimmer
Blind fashion designer - JĆ¼rgen
White guy and transexual Asian gf - idk their names but in Day At the Park
Twink and talking cat - idk and Clifton
Two kids show hosts - Eddie(Blah Blah) and Mr. Marble(Arlo)
Astrological lesbian - Darlene and Cathleen
Goth Guy - new BRCU character I think
Doll - Annabelle
Ghost - Noah
10/10 recommend
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I don't know why the young woman yelled at the older lady at homeless meals with silver hair and God symbols made out of tin foil about the alien invasion.....apparently if your India there are applications for various jobs though I think she is a Bernardo gui type nun did you do that morally without seeking trade
Because it is suppose to be performance and tourism
Its my guess that she screamed bitch at her for no reason because she is in pornography and her appearance is actually kind of creepy.....
Her skin tone had a greyish ness to it like she was pulled out of the shark tank jerk creeped not as beautiful or valuable as claimed aquired appearance harassively
David grey....I assume if her character defect is to tell off alternate feminines as not straight and so not valuable then she has to be criminalized and it's maybe very wealthy and very alone to be punished here
I think it is the juvenile tendency if they can't maturate then they have what it takes for militaristic initiation into upper middle class places and finally get to be alone
I tried to think what about that lady is so unpleasant that one would need to swear at her......and she mostly just kind of does stuff Catholic and it's Brutus again please don't kill Caesar yet don't to me yet
Anyway the woman who sweared at her again i guess it's these humiliations....they called her butt mud flaps like want to send her in for an ass lift and I would believe her life is scary enough to stalk really anyone to steal her life or metropolis
Hare Krishna Krishna and arjuna I don't completely enjoy being reminded of my sister does everything correctly by catholicists and I have to finally do ME......to have things in life......it is not going to give the whole empire a different dictator it's just reform to not give ultimatums
Later the lady screamed at at the library didn't like the pastor at the presbyterian meal.....she was upset that he was talking about ornaments to a homeless person
So I told her it's just poetic....Phoebe friends....saint Michael Phoebe is his favorite....this was to steal your kettle of fish with an ornament hanging from its handle.....doral Florida if you must know when renewal is finished there won't be no nasty bumpy hazard sidewalk to trip and strain you you can sell ornaments for the games your walk will be that smooth ....this was very very nasty to us
Homelessness....the military recalls a lot of equipment calling outside equipment was very bad for them and new is all these inessentials for women that could improve resilience to infrastructure because they desperately union history to confederates needed to raid your home for random stuff
See all these things my friends veteran dad's let me try.....men's health turns all men into rageing vegan annoying vain problems and its now stuff i will use.....so they finally want mens stuff for transexual untreated homogenetics and stop needing to be women .....i think they do though need a transexual ..
Eating disorders don't respond to behaviourism till it's treated as desperately wanting a mother's power
Then see for gay it's a pink ribbon to remember gun shot victims on pajama pants....its all these little alterations to mens stuff to help them restore the boys relationship to God the father as a benevolent universe and say their prayers so they stop compulsively stealing our woman's lives in the home
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Thank you, I was so tired already of seeing the Hot Takesā¢ about how the Pope is making bigots sooo mad by being oh so kind and progressive, but had no time to write something coherent about it.
The thing is, this Pope is both quite conservative, bordering on reactonary when it comes to many issues, but he's also extremely good at PRs (even better than WojtyÅa, imo) and so he's very good at allowing statements like this one that seem progressive and maybe make very small advancements, but in truth give the Church and local priests a lot of room to be backward bigots. And this is no different: it is a very small step forward that allows him to claim to be progressive, while doing virtually nothing to force conservative priests to become more progressive.
Also, one important thing missing from the translation: the original text does not use "transgender" but rather uses "persone transessuali" (transexual people). And in some parts the text uses "un transessuale", which translates to "a [male article] transexual". "Un transessuale/un trans" is also how newspaper articles often refer to transgender women, especially when they get murdered, beaten, or are otherwise victims of violence, so it's a pretty bad look for this to be used in a statement supposed to be welcoming and progressive.
I'm all for reclaiming slurs and not letting outdated language get in the way of good things happening, but we're not talking about my grandma talking with me over dinner, it's an official announcement from the Vatican. This alone tells you a lot about the real care and respect they have for transgender people.
Also also, by reading the original I see a lot of appeals to morals and caution and respect of Catholic values, which basically translates to each priest doing what he considers best to maintain the decorum of his local community and not generate "scandal", according to their personal judgement
So yeah, far less progressive than what it looks like. The one big difference it makes is that, if a progressive priest decides to be more welcoming towards transgender people but the bishop he answers to is a raging transphobe, now it'll be more difficult for the bishop to punish the priest (usually by sending them to some small, remote parish) because there's an explicit formal statement that allows what he's doing. So, in a roundabout way it will allow more progressive priests to create a more welcoming community, but it still leaves a lot to the judgement of each priest and if you're trangender and in a parish with a more conservative one, you're basically fucked.
the thing we need to understand is that the pope is not at all pro-lgbt rights in anyway. Does he oppose violenece/hate as a blanket sort of core belief? Yes, so this includes violence and hate towards a queer person. But that doesnt mean he believesthat being queer is something to be celebrated, let alone acceptable.
Does he say any gay person can join in the mass? Yes, as a blanket sort of core belief because christianity is supposed to be for everyone, and nobody, regardless of their moral failings (such as being queer, which IS regarded as a moral failing), should be turned away from participating in the holy rituals or getting close to God.
The thing you need to understand about modern day catholics is that many of them will look you in the face and say "Being gay is not a bad thing. We all have temptations we have to stay clear off. It's not the fact that you have this inclination that defines you, it's whether you choose to engage by thought and/or action instead of actively suppressing it that we look down upon." And then they'll tell you in a way they think is kind and helpful that they know a person who can help with treating that.
"The pope now accepts trans people!" Are you sure. Are you really sure
How do you think this is going to fare in reality when the parameters for this "acceptance" are "pastoral prudence" and "public scandal" and "educational disorientation".
Also, on gay people:
This is literally what i was saying: A gay person who represses their inclinations is what they mean by leading a life that conforms to the faith. Thats why a gay person in a gay relationship/marriage (which btw gay marriage is not existent in the roman catholic church, the very notion is a contradiction in their eyes) could not be eligible.
And why do i know allthis and why am i ranting about this? Because #CatholicUniTrauma and im tired of people misunderstanding how fucked up the entire catholic church is because of misleading headlines or quotes taken out of context. The pope is not woke. Seriously.
quoted article: The New York Times' "Vatican Says Transgender People Can Be Baptized and Become Godparents" by Jason Horowitz, Elisabetta Povoledo, and Ruth Graham. Published Nov 9 2023 (tumblr wont let me paste the link for some reason)
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1. photo of the top right half of a black t shirt. a statue of jesus is screenprinted on it, and text along the top and bottom of the photo says "god invented gay sex, let not one divine creation be wasted. from sweatermuppet's bonfire.
2. transcription: to dress across / state lines / to clothe your crime / here / & be dragged by the hair /back / sloppy dress / dress outlaw / to hollow out the body / like a bible / to hide the gun inside / to be caught / & convicted / of transexual worship. by @sweatermuppet
3. Art by @spiralpilled. On the left side of the picture, the body of a thin person is visible from the shoulders to the thighs. They have top surgery scars and are wearing black boxers. On the left, in red all caps, it says "queer sex is holy" and under that "faggots fuck better."
4. Detail of a shirt from eveofsword's bonfire. "To be transsexual is to be closer to god" is printed over a blue-tinted photo of a foggy city.
5. Genius lyrics on work song by hozier: This line is likely a reference to the traditional gospel song, "Ain't No Grave," which has the narrator leaving his grave at the rapture. This line thus draws the connection between the narrator's baby and heaven or God. Their love is godly and is tantamount to salvation.
6. Detail of a shirt from eveofsword's bonfire. A biblically accurate angel is printed on white against a black background. Text around the angel says "all angels are transsexual" in all caps, with the first three words above the angel and the last word underneath.
7. Screenshot of lyrics from revelation by troye sivan and jĆ³nsi: it's a revelation / there's no hell in what ive found / and no kingdom shout / how the tides are changing / as you liberate me now / and the walls come down
8. Screenshot of lyrics from take me to church by hozier: The only heaven I'll he sent to / is when im alone with you / i was born sick / but i love it / command me to be well
9. From intimatelensstudio on instagram. A photo of two men embracing in a filled, soapy bathtub. The one on the right is sitting between the other man's legs, facing him. His arms rest on the man's shoulders and his hands are crossed at the wrist. The man on the left cradles the other man's head in his palm. Their foreheads and noses touch. The man on the left has short, curly blond hair and light skin. The one on the right has dark skin and dark tight curls on the top of his head, with the rest buzzed.
10. Source unknown. A black and white photo of two men about to kiss. One of them is lying on the grass and the other is leaning over him with his hand on the other guy's chest. The man laying on the grass has light hair and is wearing a plaid flannel shirt. The other guy has dark hair and sideburns and is wearing a light colored t shirt and a bracelet.
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Let's just,,, go over another example of the transmisandry crowd just,,,, completely misunderstanding the concept of intersectionality
Transmisandry and misogynoir are not the intersections between being trans and being a woman or being black and being a woman, it's the intersections between transphobia and misogyny, and the intersection of antiblackness and misogyny.
Intersectionality is about the intersection of axis of oppression, not of fucking identities
Somewhat related but I think this is an important part of why transmisogyny should be considered its own axis of oppression rather than the intersection of transphobia and misogyny.
Under the current gender ideology of our system (patriarchy really only describes about a part of this system, and for funsies imma call this expanded definition Big Gender) there are four distinct axis of oppression: transmisogyny, exorsexism, transphobia, and misogyny.
If we define our Big Gender as: Everyone is either a man or a woman, and it is better to be a man.
We can then define the following
Misogyny: the tool through which women are subjugated under men for their perceived inferiority
Transphobia: the tool through which Big Gender enforces the gender binary
So where does that leave exorsexism and transmisogyny? You could try to place both under transphobia but that leaves off a lot of the distinct ways transphobia alone fails to fully account for the experiences of those who suffer from them since there is no real intersection by which you can generate them (despite transmisogynys name)
So, let's define exorsexism as the tool through which Big Gender sorts people into the gender binary
Now let's talk transphobia. It's a manifestation of the ways in which people's behaviours are policed based on the AGAB they were assigned through exorsexism. Given this definition we allow cis people to experience transphobia which I think is actually an important part of our definition since transphobia is a metric of how well you fit into your assigned gender and you are punished in correlation to how far you differ from that. Obviously being trans and outright rejecting your assigned gender is the highest form of dissent and is punished the most severely but including gnc cis people under this definition is critical to understanding Big Gender (not to mention how ridiculous it is to try and call the way a butch lesbian is treated for being butch something other than transphobia or the even more absurd assertation that cis male crossdressers and femboys don't experience transphobia).
Trying to claim that cis people do not experience transphobia is also why nonbinary people are told they must transition to experience transphobia. Where the idea of the True Transexual, transmedicalism, trenders and every other way through which the trans community tries to define who experiences transphobia comes from. It is CRITICAL that we accept that cis people experience transphobia otherwise there is no way to stop the community from harming itself.
Given that cis people can experience transphobia we can separate out many of the things misogyny (and in the same vein "misandry") currently accounts for. Women getting paid less than men is misogyny, but women being punished for wearing pants or not using makeup is transphobia. (And in the same vein men who are emotional or twinky aren't experiencing "misandry" but rather transphobia)
Since for a very long time, misogyny was the only lens through which Big Gender was analyzed these phenomena were placed within misogyny and as a result applied the same brush as misogyny in that it is how men oppress women. This is why various theories like misandry or toxic masculinity were brought up as some way to explain how men were harmed by misogyny. (We can also find here the origin of the TERF talking point about how gender dysphoria in people Big Gender calls women being dissatisfaction with misogyny) That is why it is important to both label it as transphobia (which it is) and also to dispel the notion of "misdirected" transphobia or misogyny. Misogyny only affects those Big Gender has deemed to be women and transphobia affects EVERYONE, though the extent is wildly different from person to person.
This also helps to account for the ways in which transphobia manifests itself in different ways for different communities. Emotional men in feminist spaces may instead be rewarded for that behaviour since it has been moved into the realm of "acceptable" behaviours for men.
I want to add an aside here about the concepts of passing, clocking, and perceived gender. Obviously none of these are "systemic" in the sense that a state or other governing body is enforcing them. However, anyone saying that is stupid. I'll just be mean about it. Interpersonal harm is systemic if the system will either reward them for it or turn a blind eye to behaviour it would otherwise punish.
"If a white man wants to lynch me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to lynch me, that's my problem. Racism is not a question of attitude; it's a question of power." Stokely Carmichael
Systemic doesn't mean "when the government takes away our right" (though that is a part of it) systemic is about the ability to enact bigotry without punishment both from governing bodies and your peers.
As a result, your perceived gender heavily influenced how transphobia will affect you. If you are read as a man, you will be punished for feminity and if you are read as a woman you will be punished for masculinity. Likewise, if you are read as a woman you will experience misogyny and if you are read as a man, you will be permitted to enact misogyny.
This is also useful for analyzing the dynamics of transphobia is communities that acknowledge chosen genders as a person's "true" gender. Trans men are given the power to enact misogyny even if they do not "pass" because they are recognized as men. Additionally, it is part of why nonbinary people are often heavily policed even in spaces that acknowledge binary trans people in that the gender binary wasn't erased, just the idea that you cannot *choose* your gender. Lots of what transmisandry people talk about can be properly understood under this framing.
Obviously if you get clocked you will immediately be shoved into the "correct" gender and experience transphobia or misogyny in line with that gender.
This brings us to an interesting question, does a person who is initially perceived to be a woman who is read as being actually a man get the right to enact misogyny?
I believe we can safely answer that question with a "no".
Why then, is that? Is it that sufficient gender deviance will result in someone considered by Big Gender to be a man losing their right to misogyny? No, otherwise gay men would not be allowed to enact misogyny. Nor would crossdressers or femboys or any number of men who experience heavy transphobia?
What then, is the tipping point? It is the rejection of the idea that being a man is better than being a woman. Heavy deviance from manhood is punished but since you still consider yourself a man (and society does as well), you still get the benefits that come with that role.
I would now like to pitch the idea that there is not a gender binary under Big Gender but rather a trinary: men, women, and tranny wherein trannies are men who rejected the idea that it is better to be a man.
We can then redefine misogyny as the tool through which non-men are subjugated under men.
And finally, we can define transmisogyny: the tool through which the idea of men's superiority is enforced
This is why trans women are denied both manhood and womanhood under Big Gender. To give them either would be to admit that it is not a universal truth that it is better to be a man. As such, it is decided that they were never men at all, and in fact we're trannies the entire time. Thus the sanctity of manhood is protected.
It is also through this gender trinary that the concepts of TME and TMA are born. Trannies are TMA and both men and women are TME.
As a result, despite both women and trannies suffering under misogyny together, women are also capable of enacting transmisogyny since trannies are afforded no social privilege and any attacks against them are either encouraged or ignored.
As such, TME trans people are still capable of enacting transmisogyny unless they have also been cast into the role of tranny. The vast majority of trans men will be TME but every trans woman is TMA.
The necessity of transmisogyny as a force separate from transphobia and misogyny is because fighting against either of those forms of oppression does not harm the bottom line of Big Gender. Fighting for women to have equal rights as men reinforces that being a man is better. Expanding acceptable behaviours for women to encompass those men have reinforces that men are better. Expanding those for men does nothing so long is it as seen as being for men (ie. crying is manly). Even transitioning ftm reinforces that idea.
Much in the same way that a movie criticizing capitalism only serves to reinforce it, all criticisms of Big Gender reinforce it. Except for one. Outright rejection of their core tenant. For capitalism it's that people must serve capital. Which is why a free breakfast program is shut down by the police but Noam Chomsky is safe to say whatever he wants. It's why trans women are deemed unacceptable to society, but wiggle room can be found for other forms of gender nonconformity.
As a sidenote, I think it would be more useful to view transphobia as being like racism than like misogyny in regards to how targets are chosen and affected. Misogyny is a simple binary of affected/not-affected but racism is very hierarchical and has varying degrees of harm caused to those lower on the hierarchy. This much in the same way that anti-blackness is the pinnacle of racism, transphobia against transitioning trans people can be considered the pinnacle of transphobia. And much like how the acknowledgement of anti-blackness doesn't erase the suffering and oppression of other non-white people, acknowledging that trans people who transition are more oppressed under transphobia than those who don't, does not erase the transphobia those people experience.
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Hhheeellooo, can you do a request about Mikey, Smiley, Angry and Chifuyu when in love with male reader? I want to know how they realize their feelings, cope with the prejudice against same-sex people and whether they confess or hide it šš
Hellooo! Oh i like it! This is so cute. I really feel inspired. Here is your request, I hope you will like it and do not hesitate to ask me another request if you want.
Ps : I have no more requests and my heart is missing .... (Do yourself a favor and make me requests please)
Headcanon Mikey, Smiley, Angry and Chifuyu love male reader
Mikey [ Manjiro Sano ]
Prejudices
Ā Ā ā¢ Mikey had no idea that a man could be in love with another man (and vice versa)
Ā Ā ā¢ I would say that he begins to have a personal idea when Emma starts a series of a new kind (Des Yaois X))
Ā Ā ā¢ He also heard prejudices such as gay men disguise themselves as women or that it is education or that it is a disease.Ā He didn't really think about it at first.
Ā Ā Realize their feelings
Ā Ā ā¢ I think Mikey will subconsciously start to notice the concept of same-sex relationships after meeting his n / a
Ā Ā ā¢ The feat for Mikey in my opinion will not necessarily be so shocking and painful to digest but more simply surprised by the coincidence he had recently after the existence of same-sex relationships (And who discovered the existence of same-sex relationshipsĀ to was done unconsciously by this meeting with you)
Ā Ā ā¢ I think he's going to spend a lot of time watching Emma's snap series only to realize he has feelings for n / a.
Ā Ā ā¢ As if he is focusing his gaze on you, or hesitating to let you engage in future battles.
Ā Ā Confession or hide it ?
Ā Ā ā¢ Whether you are a man or a woman, he will not confess to you.Ā And the reason is that he already doesn't know if your feelings are mutual and if you too can have attractions for men.
Ā Ā ā¢ He has no difficulty in breaking down prejudices.Ā It is especially his s / o that worries him, not everyone is insensitive to the look.
Ā Ā ā¢ So there will be no confession but more flirtation, he will show a sudden sweetness and a lot of innuendo when you are both alone (He does not want to embarrass you in front of others)
Smiley [ Nahoya Kawata ]
Prejudices
ā¢ Prejudice?Ā Him ?Ā Never.Ā He is the one who accept everyone.Ā Whether gay, transexual, bisexual or lesbian.
ā¢ He has no real opinion on men who loves other men, everyone has a head, blood, eyes and for him feelings are not a few things you can control
Realize their feelings
ā¢ Love at first sight, crisp and clear.
ā¢ Smiley is the one who spends the most time with the boys (his brother or the gang) He therefore knows very well the feelings he has with them, when he meets his S / O for the first time a new feeling emergesĀ .
ā¢ He is like a magnet which is attracted by you.Ā Every time he sees you his smile is even bigger than it already has.
ā¢ Compared to Chifuyu or Mikey who took a little longer to realize his feelings, he realizes them as soon as he sees you.
ā¢ I think he will be told to his brother like "Y / N is so beautiful, like every day" or "Who's the guy who turns around Y / N?" It's the only timesĀ or he may appear to be angry.
ā¢ He is always by his S / O's side, trying to have physical contact, just being able to look at you and a blessing for him (And his behavior does not go unnoticed by others)
Confession or hide it ?
ā¢ "- Y / N I like you" It was a theatrical confession, he doesn't care about others and what he thinks.
ā¢ Lots of PDAs outside, he has no embarrassment and fortunately finds no problem with homosexuality.
ā¢ No one dares to say anything because of their smile.Ā And anytime someone looks at you and him weirdly and will only smile and say "Yes, I'm gay, bitch!" (š¤£š¤£š¤£ Sorry)
Angry [ Souya Kawata ]
Prejudices
ā¢ Angry is quite influenced by his brother, but unlike him, he is indifferent.Ā They make their life, he makes his life.
Ā ā¢ He is also indifferent to prejudices against homosexuals.
Ā ā¢ But I think he can also have prejudices like stereotypes that homosexuals disguise themselves, or that people choose to be (he's just inexperienced and indifferent)
Ā ā¢ On the other hand, hatred towards homosexuals makes him angry (Like his brother, he thinks that homosexuals are always human beings and that they are therefore no different.
Ā Realize their feelings
ā¢ The realization was very slow.Ā He is always indifferent and angry, so it never occurred to him to achieve a romantic feeling for you.
Ā ā¢ But when he realizes his feelings, he represses them because of the prejudices he's been given, that being gay is something you choose (But he doesn't do it out of shame or anything, he doesn'tĀ just don't have time for it)
Ā ā¢ But he can't help but feel softened by your presence and linger over everything you do.
Ā ā¢ The person who knows him the most is his brother who directly notices a change in his brother's character.
Ā ā¢ It's Smiley who will make him resonate and help him truly realize his feelings.
Ā Confession or hide it ?
Ā ā¢ No confessions from him at first, he doesn't want to try anything as long as he's sure you have feelings for him too.
Ā ā¢ And even if he notices that you have feelings for him, it is you who will have to move on and admit your feelings.
Ā ā¢ He doesn't hide, but he doesn't do anything in public until you do.
Ā ā¢ He certainly gets upset if someone makes a comment and it hurts you.
Chifuyu Matsuno
Prejudices
ā¢ This boy is the one of the four who is the most withdrawn about it.
ā¢ Very influential through words and the like, so he has a lot of prejudices about relationships between men and men.
ā¢ He's not disgusted, but just feels uncomfortable with homosexuality.
ā¢ It's also that kind of person who thinks that "- It's other people, that can't happen to me"
Realize their feelings
ā¢ The awareness was very very very slow (It was repressed hundreds of times) And the awareness was painful (Not out of disgust but more out of concern)
ā¢ In addition, he is very confused (Society teaches men to love women and vice versa) And the unknown certainly makes him uncomfortable.
ā¢ He had been in love with a girl before (well he thinks ...) but the feelings he had for you were completely different, so much bigger and painful to carry.
ā¢ He turns red as soon as he sees or speaks to you.Ā He suddenly loses his words and doesn't know what to say.
Confession or hide it ?
ā¢ Sure, he'll hide his feelings at all costs.Ā First out of embarrassment, then out of concern for the prejudices he might receive from those around him.
ā¢ If he confesses and it is reciprocal, he is a little against revealing your relationship (Of course if you agree to stay hidden until he is a little more comfortable)
ā¢ Since this is something new for him, it will be necessary to take matters into his own hands.
ā¢ But the more time passes, the more he will end up taking responsibility and feeling embarrassed to have had this kind of thinking at the beginning.
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this post made me fill an entire page wtf did you put in it.
GNC WHIZZER ALL PRONOUNS TRUTHER!!!!!! FUCK YEAH. i personally like a lil he they because what can i say i am a projector but he she whizzer,, rahhhh okay brainrot beginning here (itās the timeline, i got so,, so carried away,,,) stuff in quotes are from my notes and [] are stuff iāve added in as iām typing (idk why thatās important but i felt like mentioning it so š¤·)
so imagine, the snowball metaphor. at this point we are at the top of the hill, making the snowball, it isnāt rolling yet. ofc we know marvin is queer and knows heās queer from a very early age. for the sake of this post, i imagine he doesnāt really go into explicitly queer spaces until heās an adult. most of his encounters up till now have been eyeing someone and praying or sex workers iād say. heās rich and closeted yknow? so my notes say, āMarvin goes into queer spaces. āomg trannies??ā with this doodle next to it
you get it. then, āFirst time marvin experiments, he uses trinaās makeup, shortly after jason is born.ā i donāt know how, maybe sheās with jason at a mom and baby meeting or something, maybe sheās just getting groceries and itās up to him to watch jason and heās asleep, not sure. i wrote (trina took him [jason] to her parents? realistically her parents would come to them but whatever)
āHe goes out presenting fem for the first time when jason is in grade school. he caught wind of a place where ādykes n transsexualsā hang, from a fem dressed man at one of his haunts (in hindsight they were probably trans, but marvin didnāt know or chose to ignore it) itās not much, makeup and the most neutral while also being slightly feminine clothes he can find. maybe he borrows something of trinaās -if he can get over the guilt and find something that fits that is. maybe he uses her old maternity stuff.ā
āThatās where he meets whizzer for the first time. whizzer is already into his transition, well into it. marvin is nervous and anxious but whizzer clearly likes him [and lets say marvinās definitely had a drink. i think whizzer would be presenting masc, androdg/male passing, because if he werenāt i doubt marvin would go for it. heād think some lesbian was coming onto him and wouldnāt have that at all.]
āTheir first sexual encounter is very important to me. [i havent thought through all the details and maybe this alone is too much thought but; some background] marvin i would say, at this point, has only bottomed once. he was very uncomfortable with how he felt, [of feeling like a girl and hating it, but hating himself because he dared wonder if heād liked it]ā
āi feel like heād try, in the spirit of going out fem, heād try again. i havenāt really gotten farther than that, iām not sure how he would react. [but it would be chaotic for sure. i have more thoughts but for the sake of this not being super explicit iām not going to go into lots of detail, but] i will say i think by the end of the night marvin gets whizz to bottom.ā
āFast forward to the end of in trousers/beginning of march of the falsettos, i donāt think marvin is properly out yet. i also havenāt decided if i think his and trinaās divorce would go the same. iām not sure if she would catch him and whizzer, because trina catching her husband with a cisgendered man vs a gnc butch trans person to me seem like they would elicit very different reactions/aftermath. i think marvin just Left, because he canāt live like this anymore, he doesnāt want to lie, he doesnāt want to sneak around, etc, and gives trina some half assed reason, [which heād feel terrible about] or he would just tell her heās gay and leave citing that excuse [which i guess isnāt entirely wrong]ā
back to she her for marv cuz im not referring to her direct past anymore! so a couple more tidbits i came up w as i was typing this; think throughout marvinās kinda journey, at first she considered herself to be someone who enjoyed cross dressing, not a transexual. a man who sometimes enjoyed going out as a woman. by the start of march of the falsettos i think she knows she isnāt just a man that likes to cross dress. but at that point she still never goes out like that unless itās to a queer space, at night, with whizzer. i think their breakup between motf and falsettoland also has some new reasoning. i donāt imagine marvs personality to be Super different in this universe, still an ass, still the marv we know from in trousers and motf. but with the added layer of transphobia and worse misogyny. i think a big factor in their breakup is the transphobia she pushes on herself and by extension whizzer. hey remember gnc whizzer? yeah she has No concept of that. youāre either a man or a woman, what?? and if youāre one of those freak trannies, then stay in your damn lane. she pushes patriarchy onto whizzer, expecting him to act like the Man, and then when whizzer acts or presents in a way that marvin perceives as failing to comply to male gender roles, she goes right back to āwell then why even try? just go back to your dresses and shit. you were born a woman, act like one.ā something along those lines. whiz has none of it ofc, āsorry you hate yourself but i canāt deal with the overspill of that, itās not on me stop putting it there. fuck you.ā something like that. i think by the time falsettoland rolls around, sheās fully presenting fem in public. charlotte and cordelia were a huge help, and their Tough Love was very needed. (they were also having none of her transphobic misogynistic shit, and she was tired of hating herself.) i start to get a little muddled here, less of a linear timeline more of just little events here and there and interactions i think take place. whizzer takes marvin to get her ears pierced, same place whizz got them. he charlotte and cordelia help with a new wardrobe. marv tells her family (trina and jason. slowly. i donāt know how yet. and eventually they meet whizzer but iām unsure when/how. i think in motf, because i like whizzers dynamic in their family especially with jason, and i donāt want to give that up. esp w catboymosesās headcannons about jason and whizzers relationship and how seeing whiz changed jasonās perception of a lot of things.)
eventually things work out. itās really bumpy, but they do. thatās all i have for now sorry that itās so damn much. please anyone let me know what you think!!!!
okay while iāve been scrolling the dykesettos tag/looking for references ive got to thinking about whiz and marvs dynamic and how/if it might change in the context of them being lesbians (and even more in the t4t context?? transfem marv transmasc whiz??) i love yall oh my god im THINKING!!!!! dykesettos soon im having too much fun drawing them
#dykesettos#whizzvin#marvin falsettos#trina falsettos#whizzer brown#whizzer falsettos#falsettos#jason falsettos#also sorry i didnāt mention mendel once jesus#i swear heās present#i donāt think marvin tells mendel about how he feels#maybe ONCE. like BARELY#before heās out as gay btw#like ādo you ever think of wearing womenās clothes?#mendel: no?#marvin: yeah haha no me neither#jay is jabbering
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